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• R: The Icon macro worked well. I wanted to avoid the fully qualified URL because to access the Wiki in question requires password authentication. Including an image using the full URL caused my webserver (Apache 1.3.19) to reprompt for authentication whenever the page was viewed or re-edited. Perhaps a default [[Image]] macro could be added to the distribution (essentially identical to [[Icon]] ) which isn't relative to the data/img directory. I've actually been thinking about trying to cook up my own "upload image" (or upload attachment) macro. I need to familiarize myself with the MoinMoin? source first, but would others find this useful?
  

• Note: Regarding the upload feature - pls note that the PikiePikie? also implemented in Python already has this feature, see http://pikie.darktech.org/cgi/pikie?UploadImage ... so I guess you could borrow some code from there -- J�rnHansen
  

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Well, why not. Putting it in the title has the distinct advantage of a faster index generation, and also eases the upgrade of existing MoinMoin? wikis (cp Help* mywiki/data/text).

Edit / update anomalies

I don't like this feature. On WikiWiki? I'm able to make a small edit, click on Save and look at the result. Then I just push the back button and do additional changes or correct something I did wrong on the previous edit. This isn't possible on MoinMoin?. Of course I can always use EditText? again, but this is significantly slower. --MarkoSchulz?

Marko, would a preview-button (opening a new window!) solve that problem for you? Also, note this from MoinMoinTodo?: When a save is in conflict with another update, use the rcs/cvs merge process to create the new page, so the conflicts can be refactored. Warn the user of this! -- J�rgenHermann

Good idea => Of course, one could add a special case by also storing a unique session cookie in a hidden field. If it's the same client, then we assume they're just pressed the back button and we let them overwrite the changes. -- MartinPool?

The C2 and UseMod? wikis check the user in case of a conflict. If the user is the same, the save is allowed. We presume that users can handle conflicts with themselves. (This could be a problem if multiple users edit from the same IP.) --CliffordAdams?

UseMod? lives at http://usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl

It is very likely that cookies will not be available on the majority of internet appliances for a long time, nor will they be available in browsers that do not support them or browsers that block them. I recommend gracefully degrading in the case that cookies aren't supported by the client. -- SunirShah?

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• In MoinMoin?, it would be nice for a macro that would allow users to input text, and when they hit submit, it would append their message (along with the date & time) to the end of the file. You could use this in a News page, etc. --KeithNaas?
  

• It'd be nice if changes in diffs were marked with <ins> and <del>: browsers that don't understand stylesheets can't display classes "diffnew" and "diffold" differently. --deltab
  

I do accept patches (preferably against the current CVS tree), if you want to work on anything, let's discuss it the mailing list (moin-dev) first, so work is not duplicated.

The matter of translation is two-fold: effective & clean inclusion into the source needs the refactoring currently under way, and then there is the matter of the translation itself. If you could translate the Help* pages to German for a start, that would be tremendously helpful.

Regarding Python 2.0: I'm planning to keep 1.5.2 compatibility as long as possible.